We saw it, after all, with 9/11. We saw it with 7/7.
My convert friend refuses to accept either atrocity was carried out by those following his faith. It was western governments, security forces and of course....the JEWS!
There are claims now emerging that Woolwich was a false flag operation.
On the anti-Semite site run by bonkers Canadian professor Michel Chossudovsky called rather grandly Global Research we see this:
Woolwich London Killing: Terrorism or False Flag?
Chossudovsky, by the way, has been described in various quarters as one of "Canada's nuttiest professors, those whose absurdity stands head and shoulders above their colleagues" link
The article has this to say about the recent events. Look away now if you are easily offended by rank stupidity.
These type incidents automatically raise questions. Answers are needed before jumping to conclusions. The timing of Wednesday’s killing is very suspicious.
COBRA refers to the room where committee members meet – Cabinet Office Briefing Room A. A terrorist alert was imposed. Heightened security steps were taken.
These measures don’t commonly follow street killings. It doesn’t matter how gruesome. Most incidents get scant coverage. Many go unnoticed.
The article goes on to quote Peter Eyre, "a Middle East consultant, geopolitical analyst, investigative journalist, anti-war activist, and valued Progressive Radio News Hour guest."
“The gruesome scene of a decapitated actor with no police or paramedics at the scene and no blood,” he said.
The “offenders are shot by armed police who are in attendance in the background but the murder scene has not been secured!!”
Many awakened “to this amazing Shakespearean play that has unfolded in Woolwich, London where all the actors were so bad they would not even qualify for an interview as an extra in some third rate movie!! S)o much vivid violence and yet still no blood at the scene…why?”“(B)ecause the actors had not had time to splash it around before they filmed the scene.”“(I)t was however added later as the picture (in his article) shows…the blood is only on the pavement and not on the road!!”“(D)o you think they attempted to copy the Boston Bombing but somehow did not get it right?””
So, innocent Muslims were framed for 9/11. Innocent Muslims were framed for 7/7. Now innocent Muslims were framed for Woolwich.
Black is white. White is black. And I'm a small rodent called Gerald.
Please wake me up when the nightmare is over.
MI5 involvement has been proved, brother.
ReplyDeleteYou will see...
So a guy is dead, another walks up and talks to a camera admitting the crime and aligning himself with a religion with a bloody cleaver in his hand... but it was all a setup because of an odd blood theory? Who's acting? The guy who got shot? That'd be an impressive feat of on-the-spot acting, that.
ReplyDeleteA common theme, perhaps mental deficiency in conspiracy nuts of all kinds is that while they think they've spotted something anomolous with the reported account, they fail to question how that same thing which they think they've observed makes sense in a conspiracy scenario.
ReplyDeleteOn another note about Woolwich, it was interesting the collective mainstream British Muslim community strategy of saying this had nothing to do with Islam, some saying these are not proper Muslims.
While non-believers reject such a metaphysical binary concept of one true Islam, I think the community realises that about us, but the main purpose, understandably, is to show that *they believe* this is nothing to do with Islam in their thought-paradigm, thus prempting suspicions of them sympathising with the murderers.
Your friend's point of view is wrong. I'm a practising Muslim. I don't believe this was a conspiracy. It happened. I don't sympathise with any terrorist from any religious faction! Muslims stand up for justice. What's right is right and what's wrong is wrong. And this was wrong. Whether they were Muslims or not, I have no idea. It's not my place to *judge* someone's religious conviction. I am a Muslim but a human being first and foremost, it is possible that Muslims can do bad things just like anyone else whether they follow a religion or not.
ReplyDeleteWhat is interesting is how common sense has prevailed you folks. For people who are supposedly independent in thought, you guys sure do listen to/watch a lot of propaganda being given by the media, not just about this incident but all reports to do with Islam.
Being rational against Islam, fine so be it. That's up to you. To be honest, in Islam we give dawah to non-believers. If they choose not to believe, then it's up to them. Believe it or not, Islam shouldn't/doesn't need to be forced upon anyone. I'm equally amazed that there is a single blog 'rationalising' Islam but with with a biased view only. Haven't seen any others against any other religion. Also, it seems that over the last ten years, all we seem to hear is how 'bad' Islam is. With reports continuously coming in from the media highlighting incidents which are linked to Islamic Terrorism but failing to highlight all the other atrocities happening in the world. Propaganda at it's finest!!! Yet, it's still the only religion which is attracting non-believers and increasing rapidly. I wonder why? OMG we must be brainwashing!!!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/terrorism-in-the-uk/10076096/The-Muslim-faith-does-not-turn-men-to-terror.html
Fundamentally, I find it DISGUSTING how you all jump on the back of news which is both disturbing and quite insensitive to the events which have occurred. My thoughts are with the victim's families at this time rather than condemning people. That comes from being a decent human being and having RESPECT and EMPATHY for other people. I'd pick Islam any day over any other religion or Atheism. Which by the way, I find fascinating. Islam allows people to *choose* whether to believe or not, whilst Atheists take the p*** out of everything showing they have no respect for other people's views or opinions. They have to be *right* in everything...... it makes me laugh because Atheism is not independent thought either!!
PS Gerald, this is no different to the beginnings of the Holocaust.
As for your readers who 'shout at to you', seems like some people only like to follow because they are disgruntled with their own bad experiences in life and it's easier to hate than love.
I wish you and your readers all the best.
Peace :)
"The “offenders are shot by armed police who are in attendance in the background but the murder scene has not been secured!!”"
ReplyDeleteWhat's that old saying? 'Never ascribe to conspiracy what can more easily be explained by cock-up'?
This is, after all, the Met Police we are talking about....
You know, if blaming is a defense mechanism (which I believe it is) - the intelligent thing to do is blame something that is blameworthy (like insanity for example) rather than your favorite scapegoat.
ReplyDeleteThe Jewish community are busy building economical empires, with big business like Arcadia Group, Google and whatnot. If they want to do a conspiracy against the Muslims in the UK (???) (which I am sure they are too busy enjoying their lives to give a toss about) I am sure it will be significantly more expensive and classy than a random psycho with a knife.
This man is not the first or the last whacko that will claim being driven by God to do his crimes - most psycho killers believe they are on some kind of super mission by an all powerful deity. To attribute this particular whacko to Islam and all the other non-Muslim whackos to "madness" (and not the deities and religions they claim to follow) is somewhat unfair and biased.
Hi Jasmine,
DeleteI suppose the difference between general religious "whackos" and the Muslim terrorist is that the Muslim terrorist will find plenty in the Qur'an to allow him to justify his actions and, more, to convince him he will be rewarded by an eternity in paradise.
Where in any other religion does it exhort its followers to make slaughter among the unbelievers?
There are plenty of references to God killing those of whom he disapproves but I can't remember being told in any Judeo-Christian literature to go out and kill.
The only thing that I can't fathom is where is all the blood considering the victim was hacked, butchered, and gruesomely stabbed and an attempt was even made to decapitate him whether successful or not I still don't know.
ReplyDeleteConsidering all of that, where is the blood? The only blood you see is on the suspects hands and weapons, there clothes are pristine and free from blood splatter.
The only 3 images showing the trail of blood that I have come across are the helicopter images. On the brighter image the back of the car is damaged, on the darker image the back of the car is intact (and all the rest of the images as well). The other helicopter image showing more of the front of the car shows a puddle of blood near the wall in the corner and then that trail on the pavement, but this image (and I assume the other helicopter images as well) was taken once authorities had taken over the scene as you can see a tent covering the victims body.
Strangely, all the other images with the suspects showing the car from different angles as well as the body in the road, does not show that trail of blood which is present in the helicopter images. And it should be there considering the body had already been dragged onto the road from the pavement, but there is no blood whatsoever, and that trail of blood is no where to be seen.
If somebody just looks at the images bearing in mind how the soldier was killed, and uses their brain, they would see that the two do not add up. It's basic rationality.
If I am to not think for myself, and just accept everything at face value, despite it not making sense, then the least I can say is that this is the cleanest decapitation and butchery to have ever occurred. So clean that the victim's body looks fresh, the road looks fresh, and in most pictures (in exception of the helicopter ones) the pavement looks fresh. And all the blood just perfectly managed to go on the suspects hands and tools only, nothing on their clothes whatsoever. I honestly would like to know how they managed to murder someone in that fashion without making any mess?
It sort of reminds me of Mohammed Atta's passport on 9/11 that managed to survive the plane crash, explosion, the fire which according to the official story was hot enough to melt steel, the collapse of the towers to be found by the FBI in pristine condition on the side-walk. How is that possible?
But it is possible right, because the Media said so. Accept it, and don't think too much, or else you are a 'conspiracy theorist.'
Are you wearing your tinfoil hat?
DeleteWoman, you are pissing me off.
ReplyDeleteWe are not saying the Muslims didn't do any of this. Of course, they might have and I will be the first to say that Muslims were behind 9/11 but those "Muslims" who did, we do not consider Muslims anymore!
People do things like this all the time: Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hispanics, Hindis, Catholics, and all of the others but do people think Christianity is a terrorist religion? No! Of course not! Christianity is the only right religion. The Christians and the white people are the innocent victims of the blood-thirsty Muslims right?
You make me sick.
-Mariam