tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post7067538223606639681..comments2023-11-23T18:05:15.094+00:00Comments on Rational Islam? - Letters to a Muslim: Koranic verses which prove a human author #3Spinozahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06059865902367641577noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-53006485999339923722015-04-08T09:34:46.927+01:002015-04-08T09:34:46.927+01:00A talking ant and they want me to believe it's...A talking ant and they want me to believe it's Allah that is wrote the Quran. Who is Allah? Allah is Muhammad cos muslims believe Muhammad is the Comforter/HolyGhost. smalltallest88https://www.blogger.com/profile/04482639883536930895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-71501612742350811442015-01-26T16:57:05.862+00:002015-01-26T16:57:05.862+00:00Whilst we learn from 13:2 and 16:12 that “Allah co...Whilst we learn from 13:2 and 16:12 that “Allah compelled the sun and moon to be of service” and that we are to take this as “a portent”. So Allah ties the movements of the sun and the moon very closely to the diurnal cycle and expects us to learn lessons from this.<br /> 21:33 makes this even more explicit: And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon. They float, each in an orbit.<br /> Except of course, there is a problem: the movement (or “orbit”) of the sun is irrelevant to the diurnal cycle. An omnipotent creator would know this. A 7th century desert Arab would, however, have a geocentric view of the universe, because that was the limit of man’s knowledge at the time. He would look at the sun tracking across the sky and draw the obvious conclusion that its movement was due to it orbiting the earth rather than the earth revolving. Thus a 7th century desert Arab composing verses to show the might of the Creator as shown in the alternation of day and night would almost certainly write something like this:>>>>>>> actully this is another miracle of quran , the 7th century desert Arab knew something even you didn't know about it when you wrote this watch this and learn the truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQHdR5whcp4 , you can also search as you want about this very new information angelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08740313982646277189noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-36098650161603553812014-11-11T21:33:18.485+00:002014-11-11T21:33:18.485+00:00Barely literate goat herds and we are told to take...Barely literate goat herds and we are told to take it as the word of God. Hahahahahaha johnraynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-26326455722236886332014-08-08T05:16:20.895+01:002014-08-08T05:16:20.895+01:00AnonymousAugust 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM,
will you use ...AnonymousAugust 2, 2014 at 6:00 PM,<br /><br />will you use the same logic when talking about other faith ? why not you declare those wrong translation as haram ?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-21566888251384279772014-08-07T04:05:11.690+01:002014-08-07T04:05:11.690+01:00These translations are not produced by 'ignore...These translations are not produced by 'ignorent atheists' like Spinoza, but rather by renowned scholars. 'Lughah' and 'Nahu' are essential learnings for those studying Islam, not only for non-Arabic speakers, but also Arabs who speaks Arabic themselves, because interpreting and translating the Quran is done meticulously. Hence, these translation referred by Spinoza has been approved, I believe, by scholars (ulama's). To suggest one to read Arabic because 'English translations', or translation into any other language as 'stupid' is like questioning the ulama's themselves.<br /><br />It also seems to be an easy and quick way out upon stumbling an argument which one cannot answer. Same to the usual response of 'please seek answer from approved ulama'. But if a muslim question an ulama, wouldn't that muslim be subject to, at the very least, condemnation from its muslim community?<br /><br />and coming to that point, what if 2 ulama's or more have different interpretation of the Quran (which happens a lot, and the term used is khilaf), which one should be followed? Someone commented on this blog before that muslim should 'self interpret the Quran'. Really?<br /><br />-Alex-Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-76117394060180783562014-08-02T18:53:19.791+01:002014-08-02T18:53:19.791+01:00Which verses do you believe are mistranslated then...Which verses do you believe are mistranslated then, Anon?<br />I'd be happy to look at alternatives.Spinozahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06059865902367641577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-34418496114296560152014-08-02T18:00:46.111+01:002014-08-02T18:00:46.111+01:00Read the arabic and prove all this. Using english ...Read the arabic and prove all this. Using english translations is stupid because each translator can choose to use different words for concepts. You wouldn't be able to find 2 Pushkin or Dostoevsky translations that are the same, some/a lot of concepts are lost in translation. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-72125962615185606422014-07-28T11:18:54.481+01:002014-07-28T11:18:54.481+01:00When you discovered this, you regretted reading it...When you discovered this, you regretted reading it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-74517649828513082302014-07-27T22:23:23.922+01:002014-07-27T22:23:23.922+01:00When you discover the truth you will regret writin...When you discover the truth you will regret writing this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com