tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post3382770169291007443..comments2023-11-23T18:05:15.094+00:00Comments on Rational Islam? - Letters to a Muslim: Egypt - MB's Islamic UtopiaSpinozahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06059865902367641577noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-10939948306982415972012-10-07T20:49:16.672+01:002012-10-07T20:49:16.672+01:00Assalam.o.Alaikum,
Please Visit My This Islamic Bl...Assalam.o.Alaikum,<br />Please Visit My This Islamic Blog. It Contains Islamic Supplications And Other Useful Islamic Material.<br />JazakaALLAHu Khair ...<br /><br />Best Islamic Blog <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-28958589897383471602012-10-07T13:09:58.698+01:002012-10-07T13:09:58.698+01:00Well your friend made a crap argument there, becau...Well your friend made a crap argument there, because if that was the case there would be no need for Sharia and Hadith. <br /><br />Any "Utopia" is a state of everyone practicing a philosophy the way it is supposed to be; thus rendering the need for crime and punishment to desist - and that's never going to happen for any philosophy and it wont happen for Islam - not least because there is no agreement on "what Muslims are supposed to be" in the first place. There is 1(?)Quran, at least 500 hadith: some agreed, some not agreed, 4 major schools of thought and a minimum of 150 different sects in Islamic thought, faith and practice. Even following the example of Mohammed is "wrong" because he had double standards (i.e: "you may have 4 wives, but I can have more"...."you may beat your wife, but I do not beat mine..." "you cannot marry your stepdaughter, but I can marry mine..." and so on and so forth. So too many mixed messages and signals right from the get-go. <br /><br />All of that aside, "Utopia" is a state of perfection - and we all know there is no such thing on Earth as perfection - so again, this is another set up for a mighty big fall. <br /><br />Islam is an internal process and should remain an internal process: all attempts at creating an external structure, based on internal beliefs will fail: because everyone's internal application of the same message (no matter what that message) will be different. <br /><br />***<br /><br />If I say: "you can bring a horse to water but you can't make it drink" - some will understand that literally and think I am talking about horses, others will understand it differently and think it's about water. Others will think its a statement about mankind, others will think it's a statement about willpower or persuasion. <br /><br />Never - will everyone, understand the same. <br /><br />Now - if I translate the same statement into many different languages, and let a couple thousand years pass as well: then we really have an entertaining show going on. <br /><br />**<br /><br />@Macheath;'s comment re: women: we hate it. My grandma who lived her youth more than 70 years ago has more freedoms than I (as a young woman in a Muslim nation) have today. She never had to fear being executed if she covered or didn't cover her hair or her face: I do. <br /><br />@Anon re: Turkey - turkey has an islamist-friendly government, but the country is a free democracy and always will be, because Turks (no matter who is the president here and now) will always be loyal to Ataturk - the general who turned Turkey away from Sharia and towards Western democracy. And actually, only a few months back - the general of the Turkish army was arrested, along with a number of politicians, for plotting a coup to overturn the presidency and steer the country away from Islamic sympathizing. As for Turkish-Arab relations - they are incredibly poor, with Arabs viewing the Turks as apostates and Turks viewing the Arabs as backwards. Ataturk completely dismantled Islamic strongholds in Turkey, executed Imams and Sheiks en masse, banned the hijab and the Fez and ALMOST changed the way that religion is taught completely. The main brand of Islam in Turkey is Sufi Islam (the whirling dervishes) which is widely considered by the Sunni Islamic Global majority to be an innovation against God and therefore a sin. To understand Turks and Turkish politics you must first acquaint yourself with Kemal Ataturk: and once you have read his biography and life, you will understand the Turks. Jasminehttp://www.jasminesyard.blogspot.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-84854826426523909582012-10-07T10:46:31.381+01:002012-10-07T10:46:31.381+01:00Turkeys islamist have improved the countrys econom...Turkeys islamist have improved the countrys economy since being elected into power Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-90954245951462030352012-10-06T20:04:57.775+01:002012-10-06T20:04:57.775+01:00It would be interesting to know how many of Egypt&...It would be interesting to know how many of Egypt's women share the expectation of a Utopian future.Macheathhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04451439759398780345noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3229990984320313018.post-18323050657005452812012-10-06T18:04:01.972+01:002012-10-06T18:04:01.972+01:00Why "inevitable" failure?Why "inevitable" failure? Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com